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they are emotionally, psychologically incestuous, in my head, even when they're not potentially or actually DOING EACH OTHER.

i think this has a considerable amount to do with the actors. I BLAME THEM FOR THE SUBTEXT.

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I'm starting to feel like the sub-text isn't so much sub as actual-text lately. And it is AWESOME!

Are we so sure there is a time when they're not actually or potentially doing each other? Because I see no proof that they're not.

The J2 is killing me, I swear.

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i wrote a completely crazy reply to this, and lj ate it, which may be for the best.

so i'll just say: WORD.

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OMG I SO MUCH WANT TO READ YOUR CRAZY REPLY!!!

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READY?

i was saying that it's on the brink, really. with the groundwork that's been quietly and violently laying itself, they could take it all the way without dragging everyone ooc or otherwise hopping on the express train to wtfville. imagine the show ending in its fifth season with something very deliberate, understated but unmistakeably incestuous. i don't know if network tv would even legally allow such a portrayal - and i can't imagine the controversy that would explode over it, yet - but i kind of like the idea of the show's creators being... insane and ballsy and devilish, like that.

and, uh, i think i'll shut up now and hope all of fandom doesn't lock me up and throw the key away for being so RABID. i'm not, i swear. i'm even capable of seeing non!cest on this show, i just. have a forceful imagination? yeah. :D

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But you're so incredibly RIGHT! I was thinking earlier about how it's heading that way and what they could possibly do to get the wincest actually on air. Well, more than it is now, with kissing and groping and stuff. More groping, I should say. And sex.

Because it totally wouldn't be OOC. I honestly can't see how anyone can watch this show and not see the wincest. But I can't see how they'd get away with it without it being evil!Sam taking advantage of Dean or something. (Which would still be awesome, but would seem more OOC for me than actual brother love.)

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yeah, the sex thing, Dean would be absolutely NO NO NO. but a kiss? perhaps an angsty PARTING KISS in midst of hellfire (okay, i need to lay off the brie) and horror? i don't know, fic writers would be able to come up with something suitably dignified and consensual...

although Dean could totally get whammied by some kind of lecherous demon and have GRAPHIC SEX DREAMS about him and Sam. would the show be able to get away with that? I WANT TO SAY YES.

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OMG, Sam could have SEX VISIONS about Dean!!!

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OMFG YES. and he'd think they were from the Demon and go 'wtf this is a NEW LOW even for that jaundiced bastard' and spend a week investigating on his own before being forced to accept that his hormones and uberly suppressed-repressed emotions cooked that shit up all by themselves?

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Yes! That is perfect! And during that week Sam will be all cagey and like OMG I HAVE TO STOP MYSELF FROM HAVING SEX WITH DEAN and that will just make him want to have sex with Dean MORE!

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*feels your pain* Each week I feel incredibly frustrated with myself, I think I can't be so silly that I can't ignore the wincest and enjoy the episode like any other non-fandomy person would, and I can't either.

I think it's like

22by7 said: let's blame the J2. It's a 50-50, no? It's the way those people write the characters, but it's also the way Jared and Jensen choose to play them. They add so much intensity and love it's near impossible ~~for my pervy brain~~ to think teh incest isn't happening.

Or so I like to think.

I AM INCAPABLE OF TYPING CONCISE REPLIES. *cries*

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You can't ignore it because it's facts!!

Jared and Jensen bring the love, it's true. ~~Because they can't stop eye-fucking long enough for it not to spill over to the Sam/Dean~~

I CANNOT BE CONCISE EITHER FOR YOU HAVE KILLED MY BRAIN WITH YOUR PORNISH WAYS!!

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You speak truths, my friend.

~~Like in Hell House when Dean gives Sam that look everyone thought was guilt but in fact was 'omg I want him'~~

I'm thinking they should really, really hug soon-ish. Perhaps for the season finale? Because they deserve it, and contrary to what Dean so clearly believes hugs are VERY manly. Gay, but in a manly way. Which totally makes sense. o_O

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~~omg, i don't know the look! what look? where?~~

I definitely think they will hug for the season finale. I think it will be like Dean thinks Sam has turned evil and he will be all angsting about having to kill him but then Sam will be not!evil and then they will hug ~~and sex each other for seven hours~~ and all of fandom will rejoice.

I think hugs are much more manly than almost snogging your brothers face off.

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~~dean obviously checking half-naked, wet sammy out and wanting to jump him right there and then? that look. the one that probably makes the top 5 of potentially wincesty moments.~~

I think the same! ~~except it'll be seven days~~ If it doesn't go like that I will be very sad. I think they will probably do it in the Metallicar, too, just for symbolism and whatnot.

Agreed. But try telling that to Sam. The boy insists on snogging Dean, nothing that can be done about that. *shakes head*

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omg yes, that scene! and then dean rushes to the shower like 'i need some alone time now' and sam is like, well i'll just be out here being all naked and wet and flaunting my body around to tempt you', yeah i vaguely remember it

I think they will probably do it in the Metallicar, too

It took me a moment to remember what we were talking about. Seriously, the porn has eaten my brain.

Sam has a big dark hole of angst inside himself that cannot be filled by mere hugs and can only be satisfied by hot brother sexing. Poor Sam!

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Ok, your entire reply? It. I. Come on. There's so much Wincest I don't know what to do with myself.

I think I will contemplate the possibility of ~~God~~ Kripke giving us another one of those shower scenes right after we find out that Sam is actually not evil, and then Dean can hug him. After taking off his own shirt because it was dirty and bloody. Half-naked Winchester Sandwich.

Ok. I'll be over there thinking about that.

The Sammy in your icon is ridiculously gorgeous. *pets him*

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Yes, the scene will go something like this...

Sam: I am not evil. And also wearing nothing but a towel. Even though we're in the middle of the evil apocolyptic pits of hell.
Dean: I feel the need to hug you now, Sam. In a manly way.
Sam: Fine. But you'll need to be naked first.
Evil Things: *are all dead from the hotness*

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I have not to add, except that reading the comments on this have made my soul smile.

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Yay for the wincest, bringing the love!

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I am in fact a ridiculously huge fan of Supernatural and I dont see any incest. I do however see INTENSE brotherly love, on a non sexual level. Am I wrong for feeling this way?

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I don't know if it's wrong, that's my trouble! I really think I'm incapable of judging! Though I can watch other shows like Prison Break or Heroes without slashing the Hot Brothers, so it's got me flummoxed. I'm fairly certain it has something to do with the awesomeness of Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles and their crazy love for each other!

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I have developed a theory!
If in real life, Jared and Jensen were friends they would be in each others pants all day long, but because this isnt real life they are brothers and therefore the love is platonic. So the slashers are just seeing the other world-gay that would be there if this were the real world

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Do you mean if Sam and Dean were friends and not brothers? Because otherwise I am confused!!

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Spot on. If they werent brothers they'd do each others pants off.

The moral of this story is that cocktails + sam and dean + trying to type theories = BAD

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